> For the complete documentation index, see [llms.txt](https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/llms.txt). Markdown versions of documentation pages are available by appending `.md` to page URLs; this page is available as [Markdown](https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-civics-committee/meeting-minutes/2023-civic-meeting-minutes/civics-meeting-minutes-november-16-2023.md). # Civics Meeting Minutes November 16, 2023 ### Governance guardrails working group update * Governance guardrails are non-protocol parameter limits we may want for the safety of the system. * Topics to explore guardrails for included: * Treasury withdrawals, the need for a budget, governance principles like immutability that may be useful guides, reviewing security risks, corruption/populism capture, future interactions from sidechains/ISPOs * The working group spent time in this committee meeting continuing discussions about governance guardrail categories. ### Cardano Treasury budget process * The need for a budget process was discussed * There was recognition that a separate committee would need to define with budget input across existing committees. This included the notion of defining if outside investment may be needed as part of the process and also for this committee to also consider alternative funding sources. * This will require agreement on the philosophy of the use of the treasury - as a sovereign fund that only uses income, vs as a fund to be depleted. ### All Other business * A proposal was made for the committee to map the Cardano ecosystem and enable “seeing” the thing that’s being governed. There was general agreement that this could fit in the Civics committee, and it was added to the backlog of topics to consider for 2024. * The Civics committee wants to get in front of the community more as a committee * The committee discussed the general disagreement with holding a CIP-1694 temperature check that excludes hardware wallets --- # Agent Instructions This documentation is published with GitBook. GitBook is the documentation platform designed so that both humans and AI agents can read, navigate, and reason over technical content effectively. Learn more at gitbook.com. ## Querying This Documentation If you need additional information that is not directly available in this page, you can query the documentation dynamically by asking a question. Perform an HTTP GET request on the current page URL with the `ask` query parameter, and the optional `goal` query parameter: ``` GET https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-civics-committee/meeting-minutes/2023-civic-meeting-minutes/civics-meeting-minutes-november-16-2023.md?ask=&goal= ``` `ask` is the immediate question: it should be specific, self-contained, and written in natural language. `goal` is optional and describes the broader end goal you are ultimately trying to accomplish on behalf of the user. GitBook uses it to tailor the answer towards what is most useful for that goal. The response will contain a direct answer to the question and relevant excerpts and sources from the documentation. Use this mechanism when the answer is not explicitly present in the current page, you need clarification or additional context, or you want to retrieve related documentation sections.